Tim: 0:11

Welcome back to the Pattern Play podcast. We've got Bain and Lins this week. back with some Chelsea fans and some United fans. It's been a moment. We had the Premier League kickoff with some crazy games. I think last weekend was continuing into the Monday night as well, was like one of the best game weeks. We've had some crazy results there. We're gonna do the usual format. falling. Stocks rising. I got a feeling I know where folks are going this week ball, actually, I dunno where you're gonna go.'cause the, the game with Bournemouth went

Balin: 0:48

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim: 0:49

down. You

Balin: 0:50

Yeah.

Tim: 0:51

you can go in, in a couple of directions here.

Balin: 0:54

Yeah.

Tim: 0:55

But let's kick off with stocks rising. I'm gonna put you on the spot, man, and throw it to you first. What are your headlines for the week? Who's, which team? Or player is just gone up in your estimations.

Linde: 1:09

I'm gonna give to a player and a team player, Harry Wilson.

Tim: 1:14

Ooh,

Linde: 1:15

yeah, he's just,

Tim: 1:17

I.

Linde: 1:17

know, like there's players who are like Premier League proven, you just think this guy's gonna have a decent career in the pre remember Matt Taylor, who used to play for Portsmouth? It's like one of those, but with Harry Wilson. Yeah, those guys. But with Harry Wilson, he's always had like a bit about him. he looks really nice with the ball, free kick, stuff like that. But now he's coming to his own a

Balin: 1:40

Yeah.

Linde: 1:40

Yeah. That's my stocks Rising for a player. And then team Aston Villa Man, Aston Villa. I was, I was very shaky on Emory at the beginning. He didn't start the season well, but they've picked up points and they seem to be able to do it in any situation, whether they go two goals down, whether they're leading from the beginning. So yeah, it's one to look out for. I do think they'll start falling off sooner or later just because of European competition, but for now, Emory's doing a fantastic job.

Tim: 2:13

Those are two pretty good stocks. Rising, to be fair, man. And you got my stocks rising at the club level, so I'm gonna have to think of another one. I was gonna go with Villa two. Balin, what were we saying? Stocks rising for you this week.

Balin: 2:26

I think it'd be a bit of a disservice to not shout Villa out. Like Linda said in the beginning of the season, it didn't look like Emery had it all together and now they've just seemed to turn a page and they're absolutely on fire. I don't know. It's like, what is that nine in a row or so? Or 10 in a row? Something crazy like that. So, shout out to Villa, but my stocks rising actually meant City Three Oh away win at Crystal Palace. I'm gonna have to give them the shout out and probably a player you've never heard of, Highland. That might come as a shocker to you. You know what guys? I don't think we sit sometimes and really comprehend what this dude is doing. There really needs to be a conversation about early Holland already going down as one of the greatest strikers to ever do it because the rate that he is just converting goals, he's absolutely something else. Obviously we're a bit far into the season now. I think we're at the point now where you can start to see who the real deal is and who the pretenders are. Once you see cities starting to turn up the heat now, then you know, then you know.

Tim: 3:31

Yeah, I gotta say, man, I think you're right about. People underestimating Holland? Maybe a little bit, or maybe not underestimating, but like under appreciating. I think there's like a, he doesn't have maybe the flare of some of the other players that have just preceded him and done similar numbers. Like I think Ronaldo and Messi, what they have next to the numbers is a sort of finesse to their play, which means that people fall in love with the. The player beyond the numbers. And I think Holland, he's got this like ruthless effectiveness that people compare to. Like he, he's robotic, he's sort of surgical.

Balin: 4:12

that's it.

Tim: 4:13

and those

Balin: 4:13

He doesn't,

Tim: 4:14

fall in love with, right?

Balin: 4:16

yeah, he doesn't have a, basically.

Linde: 4:20

literally

Tim: 4:24

Yeah. If you wanna put it like that, 100%. He's, yeah, I like that stocks rising. To be honest, you guys haven't really left me with much'cause Citi was my backup plan. Or did you see the the Turkey goal in midweek with his week afoot?

Balin: 4:41

That guy. Special man.

Linde: 4:43

He is

Balin: 4:43

That guy special. That guy special. That's a.

Linde: 4:46

Yeah, bro. Like, you know when somebody has a special relationship with the ball. Yeah, because it's like, I don't think people get it. When you're skillful there's being skillful and nice and Yeah. But then there's guys where it's like the way,'cause there's guys who are skillful, but they can't necessarily strike a ball well but he, the way he strikes, it's like pie P had a relationship with the ball where it's

Tim: 5:08

Huh.

Linde: 5:08

bro,

Tim: 5:09

That's a good show.

Linde: 5:09

that everyone else doesn't know?

Tim: 5:12

That's a hell of a shout. You know, p does remind me of pate

Linde: 5:17

Yeah.

Tim: 5:18

that sort of low center of gravity, but techers at whenever you want. Tech is to order, bro. I gotta give it. Stocks rising. I'm avoiding it. I'm trying to keep this tangent going so I can think of one. Look, to be honest, I hate to say it, but my stocks on Liverpool were very, very low, right? And so I can give a stocks rising for their win over Brighton just because I think. I thought, you know, everything had collapsed and that slot was ready to go and that it was gonna be a firing job and a bit of a rebuild. And maybe Liverpool where, you know, everything was gonna go up in flames. It hasn't really happened. He's kind of steadied the ship almost. The fight with Salah has been used to rear authority as the manager, you know? So even though Isak is continuing to ghost looking very, very lightweight, I dunno if you saw the videos of him trying to keep up with play where Van Dyke was like running past him and Robertson was running past him, and you're like, what? This guy is your big money striker and he is getting outpaced by a 34-year-old, you know, center back and a 3-year-old fallback. It's mad. Yeah, they've studied the ship, so I guess my stocks rising are to the steady ship, which looks to be Liverpool in their tuna wool over Brighton. But that is definitely my third in the list. I was ready to give a lot of flowers out to the, to Emory and Villa Villa go to United in the next game. Right. Hmm.

Balin: 6:50

Yep, that's gonna be interesting.

Tim: 6:53

What are you saying about that, man? Are you, are you feeling confident

Balin: 6:56

I'm not feeling too confident, man. I'm not feeling too confident, particularly that, that last game I'm not feeling too confident. Especially now with the likelihood of Omo and Ahmad being out. They're heading into ACON this week. Yeah. So, those two particularly, that's a massive loss and it just means more dlo, which drives me absolutely nuts. So I'm not looking forward to that game, but United have had a bit of a, an interesting season as well where you write us off and then all of a sudden, even as the fans, we write the team off and then. Mason Mount will come through and do something odd, then be, there we go. We have a result. So, I don't wanna write just completely off, but to be honest, I don't go into that game feeling too confident.

Tim: 7:43

It is a weird season, even in the numbers. You know, man United look great. Like if you look

Balin: 7:49

Yeah, we second like exactly, we're behind city with the amount of gold score and stuff like that. But our defense, I just also think that that midfield s gotta sort that out. If he's serious about his life, he's gotta sort that midfield out.

Linde: 8:03

just, yeah, it looks like it, it can't work.'cause

Balin: 8:06

honestly.

Linde: 8:07

single game you see examples where it's like, why are the gaps so massive? Like there was the goal where Avennia ended up getting a free kick and scoring the free kick. He ran for like

Balin: 8:19

just.

Linde: 8:19

meters through middle with.

Balin: 8:22

Even like majority of the goals, all the goals, were literally, like, you're going right through our defense. Like you're going directly through the defense and you're supposed, you're supposed to have five defenders on the pitch, and then you're going literally, like you're slicing through that defense, like a freaking knife going through a bottom and it's bad. It's bad.

Linde: 8:42

Yeah, I just think

Tim: 8:43

Villa.

Balin: 8:44

Especially without,

Linde: 8:46

Yeah.

Balin: 8:46

especially without.

Linde: 8:47

the profile of the midfielders,'cause it's like,

Balin: 8:51

Yeah.

Linde: 8:51

these guys are not good players. Like Bruno by himself is a good player. Cass Mero is a competent player, but it's

Balin: 8:56

Yeah,

Linde: 8:57

you almost want two guys who have similar profiles there in the middle who can run cover ground,

Balin: 9:04

that's the thing.

Linde: 9:05

enough. You don't have to be a creator.

Balin: 9:08

That's,

Linde: 9:09

Ideally, if you have rice and kise there as the

Balin: 9:13

that's it.

Linde: 9:14

you've,

Balin: 9:14

That's it.

Linde: 9:15

But that's such a hard profile, especially in the prem where there are guys in the middle who can run for days, you,

Balin: 9:21

A hundred percent.

Linde: 9:22

out.

Balin: 9:23

A hundred percent. If you get a, like a Anderson and a bba, you know? But bba, the season has been questionable. But I mean the, the BBA that we had scouted, you know, at the beginning of the season, you put those two in the middle of the park, then you looking at a completely different team then. Sure. But also just like even Sure. Casimiro with his experience, he's been holding it down like he's been doing a pretty good job. But you can't tell me that. Kobe isn't fitter than ca. You

Linde: 9:49

Sure.

Balin: 9:50

And I feel like, we're losing and we're drawing games anyway. Put Kobe in. He's got that X factor he can play. He's got football brain. You saw when he came on against, against Bournemouth, man. Sometimes even just like he delayed things, just took his time a little bit more, made the better pass. Just, just simple things like that where it's just not doing Bruno things where you just spray it anytime you see a red, you kick the ball.

Tim: 10:14

What do you think about the copy man's brother?

Balin: 10:18

That's a disaster. Like, and that's just the, what was he thinking? You can't tell me that Kobe knew nothing about that at all. That's the,

Tim: 10:29

right.

Balin: 10:29

The, that's the problem. This brother, like your brother's not just gonna rock up to all traffic and put on a free copy mano shirt if there haven't been discussions about this. Already. So you know that he's obviously put this out there. This is probably something that's floating around in the main new household there. And the brother decided, you know what? Let me take matters into my own hands. And already that relationship between Ruben and Kobe, so already on the rocks and I think

Linde: 10:55

bro,

Balin: 10:55

not done himself any favors there.

Linde: 10:57

in the worst era in terms of how players are reacting to things, I swear. Like where it's

Tim: 11:04

All about.

Linde: 11:05

even Yeah, because I, I just think we live in like a very Stan era because Ronaldo and Messi, so people tend to overtake the player side where it's like. the manager doesn't have to be right with every decision that he makes, but he's the manager. So that respect has to be given to him. Where if you do things like this, it doesn't matter if they fire Ruben Erem, the guy who's likely to come in now looks at you with the same eyes that Ruben looks at you.'cause it's like you've already given him that impression. Now you have to do more to get in the team. And generally what happens is that. You'll play better, but sooner or later you will leave the club. So like Pogba, for instance, with Moreno Moreno could have been wrong, but the way Pogba went about things and Thesal King and yada yada, the next guy comes in, you do decent, and then you start going down the same dip you are going on, and then you are out the door as well. So it's like it never works in the long term.

Tim: 12:03

Yeah, play a, power is a big, I mean, I'm, I'm very sort of, pro old club like football culture where the club was bigger than the individual, the manager was bigger than the individual. It's a hierarchy of importance to the fan as well. I love my club first, then I love the players and the manager below that, but usually the manager is. Traditionally gonna be there often through multiple cycles of players. So you'll have your hero players, but at least for me, like Venga, for example. Or maybe a Marino for a, a younger Chelsea fan, or Sir Alex for a younger man United fan. You went through multiple players, so your attachment is more to your manager anyway to some degree. And then beyond that, the club bigger than everything. But then there's an Americanization of professional sports in Europe, which results in American concepts. And player power is one of them. Mega contracts, players walking around like celebrities and superstars and superheroes.

Balin: 13:04

LeBron. LeBron. LeBron James.

Linde: 13:08

But it's weird'cause I'm not necessarily a against player power per se.

Balin: 13:12

Yeah, a hundred percent.

Linde: 13:14

yeah.'cause like at Chelsea the player power after Marino left intensified, but it was a group of players where Chelsea fans even trusted these guys. If anything, those guys got it right. Those guys are the guys who ended up winning us, the Champions League, where they were like, okay, this a VB guy is not gonna work. when it is a mess of players like that, you're just like, okay, where they've proven something, they were won leagues and whatever. You tend to side with them where at times when it, these newbies who have nothing, I don't know if we can trust your discretion on this manager.

Tim: 13:47

Yeah.

Balin: 13:48

That's the thing. You gotta have some credentials. You gotta have some credentials when you're not winning anything, unfortunately. That's just how life goes. But if you're not winning anything you don't have a leg to stand on you. You can say what you want, do what you want, but ultimately, if you're not winning anything you have no leg to stand on. We could but we can use all those activists here in South Africa, if footballers feel like they're not free. All this free Ghana, natural free.

Tim: 14:19

Three of all bro. Three of all. Let's do stocks falling. I'm gonna go first'cause you guys stole everything. Last time. I'm going with, I'm going with Frank and the Spurs machine, bro. What I, I, I really, really, I, I was kind of for an Arsenal fan, I felt I've always been pretty. on the Frank Project that at Spurs, you know, I haven't let my buyers come into play there. I really thought it was gonna work, to be honest. Most of the time I thought the, the signings were decent. I thought managers decent. They already looked defensively solid at the beginning of the season, then they did. results though, happen kind of way too often. Like getting pumped. Three nil. Yeah. It goes up and down Lin, just like, you're suggesting. But the downs are pretty, pretty low. Like Forest really just battered them. Like they, it could have been more actually. And at the same time, spurs flattered to deceive. They actually do have decent buildup at times, and it looks like there's gonna be something. Then in other games there's absolutely nothing at all. And it looks like none of them know how to play football. So I don't know what is going on there. Frank stay for the long term? I dunno, the whispers coming out of the club where, you know, it's a long term project and all that and you know, spurs don't like to fire managers that quickly. Not recently anyway, so. see. Maybe he'll have to do an Ang and really, really, really mess it up for a long term to get fired. But yeah, that was a pretty crazy result. I didn't see it coming. Stocks falling for you guys. What are we saying, blin?

Balin: 15:58

SW is gonna be Newcastle.

Tim: 15:59

Yeah.

Balin: 16:00

Look, they played a tough sunline team. I think we're at the point in the season now where we see that sunline look. Sunline is the real deal. They've come into the league solid performances throughout. But Newcastle, just for me this season haven't hit the ground running. I like the introduction of Nick Ultimate. I thought for me personally came out of nowhere, very silky, very nice player. Went and scored a own goal this weekend. But yeah, that, that Newcastle team.

Tim: 16:24

do you think that on call mate, do you think that, do you think he was like, at some level still the first half? Because it's like, you know, it's early on in the second half.

Balin: 16:36

Looking a bit too intentional.

Tim: 16:38

It, it's a brilliant header man, like.

Balin: 16:41

It's a good head of a cracking head of

Linde: 16:44

Oh man.

Balin: 16:45

you never know. It could be Newcastle, just I see them play and they play with such intensity. They don't get as many results as they should. Every time I watch Newcastle games, they're very captivating. You know, you see Harvey Bond, you see Aaron Gordon, you see Bruno, and you see like, Ali, all these guys just bombing up and down the pitch. Very, very intense games, but they're loose. Intense but lose. They need to start getting a bit more results from the kind of intensity that they display and the level that they play at. They need to start granting out a bit more results.

Tim: 17:20

Did you see that result coming Lin in the.

Linde: 17:23

Yeah, you could see that something like that could happen. I just think Sunderland were, they, they're more well prepared for games, the big ones. They're more likely to lose a. A normal game against a Brighton, then they are against a top team. So yeah, lab says, yeah, he is, he is, he is managed it properly. But I just do think a lot of these teams, you play in Europe, the balance, if you're not used to it, that does throw you off man. And I do think suffer from that. And there's a few new players as players are coming back from injury. And yeah, I just think Newcastle, the up and down is gonna continue throughout the season and they play us this weekend and watch them turn around. that's how it works with Newcastle. So yeah, I don't wanna say anything too bad about them.

Tim: 18:10

At St. James' Park.

Balin: 18:12

You

Linde: 18:13

Yeah. But we have a guy called Gancho on our team, so it's, oh

Tim: 18:23

Let's finish off. Stocks falling for us.

Linde: 18:26

I have to do this man, and I don't know want to, bro. Yeah, bro. it's not even, it's not even like fully Arsenal, it's just the confidence that the players have. Where you have to stamp games with authority and you know that wolves game you win, which is good'cause everyone will say it's a championship performance and whatever. But that's wolves man. Is wolves. It cannot get that close. It shouldn't get that close where it's like you actually didn't score wolves squad goals and mascara's cousin scored that one goal. Yeah, that guy has to be investigated. I've never seen that, bro. the ball, you didn't even hit the ball. The ball slapped him the face and went in.

Tim: 19:13

Oh man. I'm glad it happened though. That guy, last time he was at the Emirates like assaulted Jay. He grabbed him.

Linde: 19:21

I remember. I remember. But yeah, with Arsenal, it's just one of those things where it's like, everyone's like, surely it can't happen again. But the problem is the fact that city are this close pep has started with the mind games. The I know how to win leagues. I've done it before. And yeah, you just, it's just one of those things where. The games, you won't expect Arsenal to draw or lose. They could. So like this weekend go to Everton and NDI is out. Dr. Hole should be out. So it's like, Hey, listen, these guys have a makeshift attack. They shouldn't be able to do anything, but everyone is scared. The fact that everyone is scared that it could happen is a testament to, I don't know.'cause for me it's like. I can't fully blame at Teta. I can't fully blame the players. Like you don't know where to look anymore. It's like there's a bigger force behind it where, yeah, bro, I don't know what it is. No, for real. You know like sometimes when you're playing fifa, you play against someone and you're beating them two null and they say two, one, and then two, two. Then you're like, wait a minute, bro. No matter what I do, nothing works here. I'm going lose. That's how it feels sometimes where be, it's bigger than us. It's bigger than us. But yeah, Arsal, I have to go for stocks falling, even though I do believe there's more temperament in the team. But things like this where injuries happen and the likes, it's sort of like you need to be expecting that we'll get the injuries and the guys who come on the pitch need to get the job done no matter what. So yeah, unfortunately I have to go for Osmo there.

Tim: 21:00

I, I gotta agree. I mean, Declan Rice at the end of the game, didn't clap the fans. He didn't stay with the players. He walked down the tunnel and threw his,you know, that tape, off at the side and you can see people in the stadium who are watching the game. Obviously you can see play a temperament and body language in a different way than we see it.'cause we're only seeing where the ball is at. And they were saying Rice was really, really having it with a lot of different arsenal players around their positioning and what they were doing and the intensity and whatnot. And I think there are a few, of said it in his post-match press conference where he said, look. Because the games have been so fast, we haven't had enough training time and I can see standards have slipped. And I have a week now.'cause obviously Arsenal haven't played in the midweek to train in the areas that will remind the players of the standards that we hold in certain movements. Now obviously he's being a bit vague, but the message is I think things have slipped and, we can blame injuries and there are a lot of injuries, but you know, they were, the worst team maybe in Premier League history. That's the streak that they're running at. doesn't matter if you don't have Gabrielle, doesn't matter if your strikers are coming back from injury, that your wingers are coming back. It none of that matters. The squad is so good, you should be still blowing them away. And it was by far the worst performance I've seen. Against a really bad team in a long time. So yeah, I'm a bit worried, man. worried. But said that Saul was like, Hey, you're always pessimistic on Arsenal. I was like, no, it's early in the season and this is the kind of thing. That happens regularly with cities. They just come up to pace start to edge, you know, get away the points, get away the points, and then until they've whittled away the lead to, to, to nothing and then go past you. So I've seen this movie before but hey, I let, let's see what happens in, in 2026. We've got a long way to go. We were crowning Liverpool as champions at one point this season. Yeah, then they crown Arsenal. Now, we'll Crown City and who knows what will be going on in two months. Yeah, maybe it'll be free. Phil Foden by, you know, April after he goes on a gold drought and he falls out with Pep. Who knows.

Linde: 23:26

Oh man.

Tim: 23:27

guys, anything else that you want cover from the games this week? We got Spurs, Liverpool on the weekend. Newcastle, Chelsea United

Balin: 23:37

There some good games?

Linde: 23:39

United Men, United Men.

Balin: 23:41

yeah.

Linde: 23:42

I feel

Balin: 23:42

Yeah.

Linde: 23:43

bro. I, I genuinely feel for them because it's like, how much of it is the manager in terms of the attack getting better or is it just like, listen, if you get and Kya guys who played in the pre, you're bound to get the attack, right. the defending part is like, brother, like what, what's the point? Because there was a point where Bournemouth could have literally won that game and then you give away, they give away one stupid free kick and then united out back. But I think I have high standards for United just'cause I genuinely think there are a massive club where

Balin: 24:17

It real.

Linde: 24:18

eighth and stuff like that. It's like they deserve better and. It's one of those things where you just hope it's not too late, where it's like, they tinker between like fourth and eighth and then out of nowhere towards the end of the season they go and dip. They finish 12 and then we've wasted another season with this guy and we're playing once a week. I did say to one of my boys the fact that United play once a week, they're not like splitting this league. And it's crazy that they're not blitzing the league. It's like you should be because everyone else is tired. So you, it's like you guys ball do play once a week at Discovery on Fridays.

Balin: 24:53

Yeah, exactly. It tells us hundred percent. Hundred percent, bro.

Linde: 24:58

weird, man.

Balin: 24:59

Hundred percent.

Linde: 25:00

It's

Balin: 25:01

Also, because Ruben doesn't rotate the squad, bro, it just becomes so problematic because when games don't go away, he never has anybody to call upon,

Linde: 25:09

Like

Balin: 25:10

bro. He. On the bench. You see, if we had that odd, even conference league game or, or or Europa League game where Xxxi bangs a brace in the week, then you know that at least come the weekend. You know, his, he's still, he's still sharp, you know what I'm saying? You can call upon him for 20 minutes and he can come and deliver. But Rubin's so rigid with the way that he rotates his squad, and we also not seeing like the, you know, Cheeto, Obie and them were in, in the mix last season. Now he's just disappeared, man. Like.

Linde: 25:38

Reuben was criticizing I.

Balin: 25:40

criticizing. Yeah. Some of the youngin.

Linde: 25:42

who've gone

Balin: 25:43

Yes,

Linde: 25:43

and it was like,

Balin: 25:44

exactly. Exactly. Saying AMA and them like they're playing in the championship and like all these things, and I'm just like, are you coming or you going? Ruben?

Linde: 25:54

what does that to do with the team that's playing now, bro?

Balin: 25:58

I, because he's not speaking with the same confidence that he used to. You starting like couple times now, things. As a fan, you listen back and you're like, what are you saying there? That's not sounding very reassuring. That was Ruben's thing. That was Amar rim's thing that he spoke well, and that he was always,

Linde: 26:18

yeah.

Balin: 26:19

find ways to, to reassure us. And, but now he's starting to run out of things to say, and the fan base, you can see already that divide starting to happen now, where people, a lot of people are already calling for his head, so. I just hope it gets it right. And you are talking about bringing in Kya and Ouo you got these primarily proven players and they come in. But another thing is we wanna see players like that improve. I haven't seen Kya and Ouo improve. Like, I, I still feel like.

Linde: 26:48

like that. Sure.

Balin: 26:49

You have Branford io and you have wolves, Kya, you need to have a united Kya, you need to have a United io.

Linde: 26:57

Okay.

Balin: 26:57

I'm not seeing that kind of improvement from Amaru and that that re frustrates me. And I haven't seen that at United for a while where a player comes in and they just take off and they can say that, you know what, under Amar, I

Linde: 27:12

That's when

Balin: 27:13

improve. It's not happening. It's not happening.

Tim: 27:19

I hear all of that and yet it would be very man united for you to end villa's winning run, and it ends up being a two one game guys. Honestly.

Balin: 27:28

And DA score and DA score and

Tim: 27:32

do a

Balin: 27:32

freaking go celebrate,

Tim: 27:33

a, a, a shot off the line. Both.

Balin: 27:36

celebrate with his with his two fingers on his pulse there. That dude, that guy.

Tim: 27:45

I was gonna

Balin: 27:45

Oh.

Tim: 27:45

something so offside, but then yeah, let me, not about that celebration. I've been seeing it on fifa, but let me not, let me not, let me not go there. Newcastle. Chelsea, gimme one prediction there, Lynn. Are you, are you gonna win it at St. James'?

Linde: 28:01

ish, bro. I think the manager's beefing with the board a bit right now.

Tim: 28:06

I.

Linde: 28:06

it's crazy'cause the fans are on the manager's side and now there's even rumors coming out that men city are looking at him.'cause BEP might leave at the end of the season. Yeah, it's looking weird right now.

Tim: 28:18

You've been a great manager.

Balin: 28:21

Is good.

Linde: 28:21

crazy, but Newcastle, this win, bro. Okay. Two, one. I say we.

Tim: 28:31

Big, big and

Balin: 28:33

Yeah.

Tim: 28:33

gimme a, a, a prediction for Villa United

Balin: 28:37

United, I'm gonna, you know what, I'm gonna give us a bit of grace and say a draw. I'm gonna say a one, one draw.

Tim: 28:44

One. One draw. I'm gonna give it a. Four, one Winter Villa. Nah, I, let me not, let me not say that. Let me not say that. I'm gonna hope for it too, too. Let me give a prediction for Everton Arsenal. We're going away to Everton and I think it, yeah, that new, what's it called? The Phil Dickinson something Dickin.

Linde: 29:05

Hill Hill Dickinson.

Balin: 29:07

Yeah. He'll,

Tim: 29:10

Phil Dickinson Arena. I think it's gonna be a one, one draw. Yeah,

Linde: 29:16

Come on.

Tim: 29:17

one, one

Balin: 29:17

you guys will edge that one.

Linde: 29:19

to win that.

Balin: 29:20

There's a corner. You'll get a corner. Don't worry.

Linde: 29:22

there's no, there's no attackers there, bro.

Tim: 29:24

we haven't scored a corner in like. A month and a half or something since Gabby? Yeah. Well actually no. 1, 1 1 timber goal. It was one timber goal. But in the Champions League

Linde: 29:34

Are scared of Tyler. Come on man.

Tim: 29:37

they also have some injuries actually, you're saying.

Linde: 29:40

Yeah. Got in like 14.

Balin: 29:45

He's gonna, he just needed to break that. And then once, once he score that one, the flood gates are gonna open now.

Linde: 29:52

But I don't think Oslo can

Tim: 29:53

Is gone. Right? For acon?

Linde: 29:54

yeah, India gone for Epcon. Ghana. Gay gone for Epcon. Drew. Behold, probably injured. Carman.

Tim: 30:01

bro. Did you know Gala Gay is like one of the oldest people in the Premier League?

Linde: 30:05

he's like 36, bro.

Balin: 30:07

Geez.

Tim: 30:07

Blew my mind and the guy like.

Balin: 30:09

But he's, he has been around bro.

Linde: 30:11

because this is his second stint at Everton. Remember I went to SG, and Yeah, he is, he is been around, bro. I saw one podcast where there was, they were speaking about him, like he was like a youth prospect, like he's 21, and then some guys, the, the guy who knew was like, please Google how old this guy is.

Tim: 30:30

21. Really? Nah, those guys shouldn't be on football podcast.

Linde: 30:34

bro,

Balin: 30:35

How old is? How old is keen?

Linde: 30:37

Michael Keen, he's, he's

Balin: 30:39

Yeah.

Linde: 30:40

30, 31. Yeah, he is. He is been around, bro, let me check. He is been around for a while. Michael?

Balin: 30:47

So it was, it was a battle of the old heads at old that, that when was going and Michael Keen.

Linde: 30:53

Michael Keen is 32, bro.

Balin: 30:55

Okay. So they both,

Linde: 30:57

and I think he's a former, he's a former United Youth.

Balin: 30:59

yeah.

Linde: 31:00

Yeah,

Balin: 31:01

Yeah.

Linde: 31:01

bro. Damn. Yeah.

Tim: 31:04

I saw some video going around claiming it was Michael Keen at the youth team for Man United, and he was destroying the player in the video was absolutely destroying it. And yeah. Then it came out, some other guy posted a video like, no man, this is a guy I, I, I know this dude from the, it's another guy from who played for like Cardiff City or something. But anyway.

Linde: 31:23

Not

Tim: 31:23

People will, people will leave you as stray online. On that note, we're 35 minutes in.

Balin: 31:29

Saying, saying, sorry, saying is from South Africa

Linde: 31:34

Saw that my father need to call him up. It's like, well, not only has he played for Georgia like a bunch of times, he has no leagues here, bro.

Tim: 31:44

That's such a weird jump. Like what?

Balin: 31:50

and one thing South Africans will find a way to make things like that trend.

Tim: 31:57

He just sees it on his phone, you know, it's, his name is blowing up and it's just South Africans saying she needs to be called up to the national team. Crazy. Anyway, Ballin, get that bread. Linda, thank you for coming on. As always guys, thank you for the chat today. Big games this weekend. I hope for some big results and hopefully, fingers crossed, arsenal, maintain the lead at the top of the table guys. Thanks again