Tim: 0:11

How are you guys? It's been a while. V Chris, how are we doing?

Chervon: 0:15

Good thanks, and you.

Chris: 0:17

Fabulous.

Tim: 0:19

Fabulous.

Chris: 0:20

yeah. Fantastic. How's the Netherlands?

Tim: 0:23

Good. It's cold. It was snowing yesterday. I prefer it when it's warm. I'll just be honest with you. I guess we're all the same, right? Like, you don't want it too hot, you don't want it too cold, but there's a perfect middle there and it's, for me, it's in the twenties, not in the, the zeros. But

Chris: 0:40

Yeah, I had a great time in my twenties anyway.

Tim: 0:45

didn't we all, didn't we all, should we talk Liverpool? I mean, we've got Liverpool fans on. It's been a while, guys. Like,

Chris: 0:51

Let's start with Liverpool. I'm dying to hear one's opinions on where we are.

Tim: 0:57

yeah, why not? Yvonne, do you wanna kick us off? We'll just have a quick look at Liverpool. Well, actually no need for a quick look. Let's dive into it. Where are we at? Let recent game season so far. Where do you wanna start?

Chervon: 1:12

It's a little bit confusing actually, because I felt like we were on a upwards trajectory and then the city game happened, and I do think the city game was. A lot of evils against us and a lot of bad decisions. And a lot of stupid decisions that happened to end up with the results that it did. I even said to people that were chatting to me after the game, I would take, I'll take the three one loss, but to

Chris: 1:40

2, 1, 2, 1.

Chervon: 1:43

to lose it in the, the way that we did the inconsistencies when it came to the refereeing and the officiating and the decisions just. Applying rules where they shouldn't be applied and not applying rules where they should be applied. It, it just, it baffles my mind. So it was extremely frustrating from that point. I did see positives in the game and I think I'll bounce back after that has been great. Really, really, really excited from or by the link up, I've noticed, and the click that's happened between Sala and Flo. Lately, like over the last few games I've, I've seen it since, since MOS come back from acon. I've seen the two of them really link up really, really well on the pitch. And I'm enjoying it. I feel like Mo sort of, I don't wanna say he's back, but

Tim: 2:36

He's.

Chervon: 2:37

finding something it's clicking and he knows that he's not getting goals on target in terms of like his own scoring, but the assists that he's giving in. And if people can put away those assists, it's a game changer for me. Like. this one now? I think'cause it's just, it's fresh in the FA cup with that one touch to Dom. It was. Executed to perfection. I mean from alley to Verge, verge to Cody, Cody across. I miss the cross balls, I must say. I really, really miss trends and the cross balls and that type of football. But like Cody, the cross ball to sell that one touch and then Dom finishes, I thought was absolutely incredible. I do stand. This is a feel I'm willing to die on at the moment. Dom is currently the best midfielder in the world, and I think That he's playing at this moment like this when Liverpool, when the rest of the team are not necessarily performing at their best. But also think Milosh has clicked as well a little bit, but robo at the same time. if we were doing stocks rising in this podcast has to go to what Tara and, and or for being such a warrior in that last game. It was. To put your entire career and your World Cup hopes on the line for the team to defend a corner when you probably have a broken ankle. We haven't had confirmation as yet. As we record, this is what we do and that's how you play for the badge. And I hope it's not the last time we ever see him in a love bull shirt, even though slot has said that he's probably gonna be back on the bench towards the end of the season. But he is likely to go in the summer. And I hope that's not the last time he represents us. But if you do, what a cult hero, and I love you. What taro.

Tim: 4:26

We can always throw in a stocks rising and a stocks falling. I yeah, I find that it's, it's an interesting take on Ari Sa lie. I think I'll always fight for Declan Rice, but I, what I will say is that free kick didn't feel as surprising as it should when. You score that kind of goal to do that against Arsenal and then city in, in two massive games. It's, it's one thing to do it against like, I dunno, Wiggin Athletic in the fourth round of the FA cup and you're, you're smashing it past someone who might be semi-professional or if they're, you know, professional the way off elite level. But we're talking about like the best goalkeepers in the league are getting beaten. From silly angles and silly ranges by Dominic Sa Lie at the moment. He is an incredible footballer. I'm not gonna deny it. And it's always a testament, I think, to how good you are when a manager. Loses two players in a single position, and you are the first player who gets moved out of your natural spot in the team, like was, and then placed at fullback because it, it really means that the manager goes, I believe in you. You know, I, you can do a job it when the chips are down and, and, and I need somebody. So, big shout, but he's, he's excellent. He really is. Excellent. Chris, where are you at, at the moment with Liverpool? Do you how did, why don't we start with the city game? How did you feel that when, I mean, the gay decision, for example, there were some things there that could have gone differently.

Chris: 5:56

The city game thought was gamma. Two halves. I thought we were absolute crap in the first half. Couldn't put four pastor together. It was like horrible. Granted, as one said, the, the refs seem to be blowing everything against us, but besides that, we didn't do ourselves any favours. Second half looked so, so good and then suddenly it was like a great, great Liverpool team again. They were putting it together. They were playing at pace. They were intent. There was everything there. Went one or up, then I don't know what happened. I think they tried to defend a leader and that's. Always the worst thing to do at one. No, conceded the first one and then lost our heads completely. Like it should have been three one, like I was joking when I was saying it was two, one or two one because I dunno how that third goal got disallowed. It was a very strange of events. I've been watching football for a long, long time. I think that's one of the weirdest refereeing. Like gold is allowed, but Dominic Red carded. But yeah. And I think, what the hell was Allison doing? Like, I mean, granted he's caught that crack against Newcastle a few years ago, but got up the corner. Sure. But maybe come back afterwards, like, I dunno, he suddenly decided like his body was obsessed by Rome, Mario or something of 1990. But yeah, he'd like, just thought he'd stay up there. What the hell?

Chervon: 7:22

We lost the ball for that third goal.

Chris: 7:25

Yeah, well that's that as well. I mean, I think he was kind of, the penalty was playing on his mind'cause that was a bit of a stupid one to give away. But I still think he's one of the best goalkeepers in the world, so I'll forgive him that. I do sometimes wonder we've got a right back that we are not using. I would rather have a nose up a slide. Didn't, didn't do anything wrong in the position, but I'd rather have him in the midfield and put the youngster in at right back. Ramsey is his name. Yeah. Put him in it right back. Let let him get a little bit of support from the more experienced guys in the middle. Maybe even put like endo in as a as, as a defensive mid, giving him a bit of extra protection or whatever, and keep Dominic Suber an attacking midfield of where he's based for me. Even in the A cup game. Okay. Granted he wasn't a hundred percent fit, but Joe Gomez was there. Joe Gomez was great when he came on. He's a, he's a, he's been a right back. Why aren't we using him? Like he, he came back from a knock, but, i'd say use Joe Gomez, like keep, keep the natural guys in their positions. But that's my I, I'm still doubtful about slots. I dunno if he's gonna be there next season. I dunno if Vaughn's gonna be here in five seconds, but there's some positives I would like to see. She was talking about Moala. Are we gonna wait for, or we just gonna power through?

Tim: 8:54

Just keep going mate. Just keep going.

Chris: 8:56

seller for me, I would love to see, I mean he is lost a couple of yards of pace but I'd love to see him move back into that sort of more of a central role, kind of like, bonds that towards the end of his career just pulling the strings from the midfield.'cause he is got such a brilliant range of passing and he's got such a great football mind that's something I'd wanna, wanna, I think could happen really, really nicely.

Tim: 9:21

I agree. I agree. I've, I've seen more from Sala recently, which indicates maybe that, you know, form his temporary class is permanent. He's gonna have maybe a good, a good few months left of the season. It's funny how. There's so much football in November and December and early Jan. If you get that period wrong and you have, I don't know, a few off weeks in life, which I guess anybody can have in any industry at any time, anywhere for them that's like 12 games now where it used to be like four or five. And so I wonder, I mean, EZ A is, sim is similar when he played for Palace. He's a Fairweather player, so plays brilliantly from August till around October, then pretty poorly, and then has like an electric run at the end of every season where he explodes into life and it's. Maybe it's just the vitamin D'cause in Europe it's a pretty dark winter. But some players just, you know, you have, you have those moments of form and Sala hasn't really had those in his, in his last few years of his career. It's just sort of high level performance all the time. But I agree that he's starting to look he's looking like he's back. And I don't wanna, I don't wanna speculate prematurely here, but I would say if he is. It's a really good time for it to happen because you are in a, an interesting place in the league around that seven spot, you know, where a few losses and it looks bad, right? But a few wins and, and it looks great. You're back in Champions League spots.

Chris: 10:58

that's, there's, that, there's also the, the other thing that makes it evil, that the Scum United are above us. Which is, makes it even worse. But I, I've been hearing rumours of, I think it was, it was always but it's becoming more and more prevalent that slot in the rest of the dressing room on scene, to eye. So if you saw the last transfer window, there was talk of Jones leaving, there was talk of Robertson leaving wanting out all of these players. Rumour to have bus stops. Have had bus. I'm not even gonna ask. Like apparently him and Andy Robinson have a, had a big fallout. Him and Curtis Jones had a fallout. Him and Virgil Vandyke have had a fallout. Him and Sah obviously that when quite public. So you just wonder what's going on in the background there. But they seem to have maybe got past it. They, they played quite nicely on Saturday. And you. I'd be interested to see how they do in the league. I, I would be very sad if we, let's talk about Man United Quick. Is this temporary, do you think Carrick's just injected a little bit of enthusiasm into the team, or do you think he's actually a decent tactician? I, I see him as being a good man manager, which I think Amarin was missing. But I'm wondering if it's the, remember at the wheel and then the wheel he drove them into like Reg, which was awesome.

Tim: 12:22

I mean, I, I'm hoping it's the latter of course, and it's more of the same, I mean, Amer got fired slash left when. Manchester United weren't even that far down the leaderboard. Right? I think they may have been fourth or fifth when they pulled the trigger. I think it was already a pretty decent team that was being largely, I think, mismanaged on the tactical level because I just think the three at the back thing where, know, he'd excluded the kid co mayo and it was creating a weird vibe at the, at the club. It felt like he had just picked a few battles that you. Didn't seem to make any sense to pick. Right. Like backing a three at the back or a five at the back as a man United coach. And then he made the fatal error, right? As a general, which is you have a tactic that you back to the hilt and then you get pressured and pressured and pressured, and then you, you, you fold and you go to a four at the back for one game and then it works out. Then you don't stay with it. You go back to the five at the back for no apparent reason. I feel like you could lose people.

Chervon: 13:38

He did change his tactics against wolves when wolves hadn't even won a game as yet.

Tim: 13:43

yeah, but you know, you know, with the fans, they see it differently. They're like, Hey, look for the back. It's, it works, it works. Let's stick with that. And then he immediately shifts back and I think it. Broke a few people, but I'm not sure if Kerik is a genius or it's actually just a decent, decent team. Like quite a few of the, the players they signed in the summer I think are really good players like Kya and Omo and it was smart and I think they're just a pretty decent team, to be honest. But I was still shocked to see what they did to City and Arsenal in back-to-back games. That was incredible, to be honest.

Chris: 14:22

also to, to put a bit of a damp on that. I mean, fair play, well done to them, that was probably the worst arsal performance I've seen all season.

Tim: 14:34

I was there in the stadium, horrible to watch. Probably one of the worst games I've seen live in decades generally, because I was right behind, like up. With a, a sort of bird's eye view over Dogo as he lined it up. So I just saw that ping and then it go off the bar. It felt like it sort of, the, the dagger was going right from dooo into my heart, you know? The trajectory would've continued and if, if it had just gone over the bar, I think it would've hit us. An incredible moment in football. And I think a lot of the games at the moment are being decided like chess. Chess games, you know, where they're a bit boring, it's very tactical, it's kinda frustrating to watch. But Manchester United in those games were, they just walked all over City and Arsenal and in both games, both teams were pretty poor, but you gotta make them look poor. So I was impressed. Yeah. Dagger to the heart.

Chervon: 15:33

Do you think that unites Dan, the guy who's growing his hair until United win five games in a row? I've seen some players and even Michael Carrick talk about it'cause he's like, his kids mentioned it to him. And even when Rooney's now weighed in on it, do you think that actually affects the players? Because I personally don't think he necessarily wants him to win five games in a row. I mean, he's gained so much popularity now. And then what will he do afterwards? You if you do string five wins together.

Chris: 16:02

I am just surprised when can count to five.

Chervon: 16:13

He said the things.

Tim: 16:15

Shots fired. I mean, gotta say I the whole attacks on the kid. Even the focus on it, like classic examples of journalists not having enough to talk about. I mean, come on, it's a kid who's just, he, he's made a game out of it and it's gone on way longer than he anticipated. Clearly. I mean, imagine thinking that it was gonna take this long for many to get five wins. I think he probably feels awkward about it at this point. I know. deleted his social media, I think yesterday or the day before.

Chervon: 16:48

Oh.

Tim: 16:49

yeah,

Chervon: 16:50

I did watch

Tim: 16:50

quite a lot of abuse.

Chervon: 16:52

of his live stream when he thought that they were gonna win and when Casimiro scored what they thought was the equaliser, then they celebrated and then only for it to be just loud, but then CHASCo getting the, the late equaliser. Shame. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it.'Cause I've seen Trent's brother has now apparently said on his podcast or his live feed, that he's not gonna cut his hair until Liverpool win five games in a row. And then people were commenting and saying maybe he should not cut his hair until Trent starts five games in a row. I say this wearing a trench shirt at the moment. And apparently Trent had one of his best games for Real Madrid to date of the season. And the fans are completely gushing over him. But I don't know if like we should take things this seriously and for it to get back to the players and the players make comments about how they don't actually care what he thinks or whatever. It tells me that they do.

Chris: 17:54

That I think it's hilarious. It was like a joke that he, I, I think you're also right by the way, that he probably doesn't really want them to win five games games in a row. But like the fact that it's as big as it is, that's awesome. And I hope the players look at his hair and feel terrible every single day of their lives.

Tim: 18:19

Stick the knife in. I love it. Alright, just, just a quick check then from your perspective. We. How many games in now? This is Match week 27 coming up. Are Liverpool sixth, points, two points off Chelsea in fifth, points off Brentford in Seventh who were wow the way they played against Arsenal in the last game. They could easily have given us a hiding. I thought they were absolutely fantastic. Are you feeling? I mean, you've got a couple of other contenders a little bit further behind you now. Five points to eight place Everton and ninth is Bournemouth. Do you feel like the only way now is attacking upwards and really going after Chelsea and Manchester United for the League spots? How are, how are you guys seeing the rest of the season playing out from here?

Chris: 19:11

We got a nice run of games right now, like hopefully.

Tim: 19:16

Okay.

Chris: 19:16

Hopefully that gives us a little bit of momentum. It's like what forest And I think we've got like a west ham and a wolves and a, a wolves again in the FA cup. And it's not, it's not a tough group until, for a, for a short while. So as

Tim: 19:34

Okay. You've got you've got Forest and West Ham in the league,

Chervon: 19:39

Have far appointed a new manager

Tim: 19:42

Yes.

Chervon: 19:44

yet I haven't heard anything.

Chris: 19:46

I think they did, if I'm not mistaken. I know Spurs we've gotta talk

Chervon: 19:50

Husband with.

Chris: 19:51

In a minute. Spurs spurs hired like Croatian, Sam Allies which would be interesting.

Tim: 19:59

Yeah.

Chris: 19:59

Yeah, hopefully Forest is still in turmoil on the weekend.'cause like, as much as I love them I wouldn't mind taking three points of them. They've been a bit of a bogey team for us.

Chervon: 20:10

Also, if anyone knows what is the record for the most amount of managers to be sacked in one season, that's managed a single club, because Forest have now, this is their third manager that they've sacked this season.

Chris: 20:24

I

Tim: 20:24

I dunno the record.

Chris: 20:26

That's an interesting one to check.

Chervon: 20:28

If anyone knows, please comment below so we can find out.

Tim: 20:32

It, it's gotta be it. It's gotta be Chelsea, it's gotta be involving Chelsea, right? I mean, those guys feel like the clo, I dunno. Wolves. Wolves are gotta be a contender, I think. They had a couple of managerial changes in one season. Remember Bolton back in the day, had a couple in one season. What a forest on now? They fired two managers in one season, right?

Chervon: 21:03

Three. And now Sean.

Tim: 21:10

Ah, I feel like that's gotta be a record. That has to be a record.

Chervon: 21:14

Be

Tim: 21:15

Have a look.

Chervon: 21:18

like it has to be.

Chris: 21:19

While, while we're doing that the questionable questions,

Chervon: 21:24

Mm-hmm.

Chris: 21:24

I'm gonna ask my fellow Liverpool fan this because she's completely impartial, is, are Arsenal gonna bottle it again?

Chervon: 21:34

Do you want my heart to answer or my head to answer?

Chris: 21:36

Your, let's go with your head first

Chervon: 21:39

Good.'cause it's the same answer as my heart. Yes.

Chris: 21:45

because. A tricky one on the weekend.

Chervon: 21:49

I suppose it's gonna be very tricky over the weekend, especially'cause the new manager bounce, even though they've got a lot of injuries. Like a lot of interest also. Dominic scored two incredible free kicks in the Premier League, right? Once again, one against Arsal, one against city. It just coincides the same weekend that Spurs, I think it was first Richon with the overhead kick. And then Dominic Slanky with the Scorpion Kick, like they've scored two incredible goals. And then almost like, hold my beer guys, let me show you.

Tim: 22:25

I think your your point around the record was correct. Four managerial four managers in a single Premier League season has never happened before. Three has crystal Palace in 97, 98, Newcastle in 2008, 2009. It wasn't Wolves, it was Watford, the other Always, I always get Watford and more just confused. And that was in 21, 22. Viro, of course, is the, the new manager at Forest.

Chervon: 22:59

Every I hear what, but I just think of that incredible footballing moment they gave us during, I think, was it the car cup for the FA cup in that knockout where saved penalty and then winning goal with, was it Troy Dini? That was just an incredible moment in football, and you just like this.

Tim: 23:22

Yeah, that was a heck of a, I think that's sort of British cultural folklore at this point. It's, it is gone beyond football. It's yeah, it's a incredible moment. Just on the arsenal bottling it point, I do want to get my opinion on that one out there.

Chris: 23:38

I think that's all we have time for, guys.

Tim: 23:39

Thank you guys. That was a fantastic episode. I do think, I think bottling is probably an interesting phrase to use. I always wonder if,

Chris: 23:49

you

Tim: 23:49

if you just,

Chris: 23:49

phrase pulling an arsenal? I.

Tim: 23:53

I prefer the phrase competing for a league title, like if you are four points ahead. It is what it is, right? Like the. In a, in a, in a league challenge, there will always be where they will close on you and then you will make the distance or the gap. I think this season will come down again to like, it always should between title rivals, the games against each other so they have a heck of an opportunity.'cause if they do beat us, and it goes down to one point, anything can happen. You can always drop a couple points. I

Chervon: 24:31

I do

Tim: 24:32

think

Chervon: 24:33

because you play two games and you have that extra, that extra game Now before City play that that makeup game.'cause they're playing Champions League and you're playing wolves, I think it is

Tim: 24:43

That's true.

Chervon: 24:43

Wednesday and then before the S Spurs game. So you can gain a bit of confidence in that W Wolves game before you go to Spur.

Tim: 24:50

It is a really good point, and I must say I do prefer playing first in terms of getting points on the leaderboard. I always hated the reverse over the last few years where you're constantly going, Hey, we've got those games in hand, that's gonna be six points. And it's like, no mate, until you've played the game out, it's no points. And so. Yeah, it's a good point Vaughn. And it does, I think, take us pretty far back before or late in the season before Citi get to do the

Chervon: 25:18

I actually couldn't find it because I think they're waiting on scheduling that fixture based on Champions League.

Tim: 25:26

Yeah.

Chervon: 25:27

'cause it has to happen during the week. So based on Champions League.

Tim: 25:30

I.

Chervon: 25:31

Car. Well, it's the final for Carrabba Cup obviously. That's why. But, and the FA Cup, I think that's what's, that's why they haven't scheduled it yet. So it's happening very, very early for Arsal.

Tim: 25:42

It's gonna be an interesting thing to have the Carib Ball Cup final. Have the two teams who are going up against it in the league, and then you've got a pretty high chance the FA Cup. Semifinalists will be Arsen offices city in that branch. And it's pretty likely that because of the way it's played out with the the Champions League playoff system, and by ending up in the top two, we've ended up in a. Branch, which would meet city or rail Madrid pretty quickly if they res win their respective fixtures. I suspect City would beat Madrid at the moment given how Madrid season is going. And so Arsenal could potentially be playing city five times in four competitions in the next four months, which could be pretty I think interesting for the neutral to see it. It'll be like a. of those boxing trilogies, you know? Interesting. Yeah.

Chervon: 26:38

So I wanna get your opinion on Raya complaining about being crowded in the penalty area with a free, with a corner coming in. What do you think? Does he have a leg to stand on or is it just unfair to be complaining that you're being crowded when That's exactly what Arsenal do every single time that there's a ball in.

Tim: 26:57

Never saw anything in the game, like just. Yeah, it's the way corners are, is, is that there's a lot of physical contact. Arsenal. Were one of the proponents of that, so I don't think we can make any kind of complaints. That's not why. that's not why we lost the that's not why we drew the game. We drew the game because we had two shots on target and didn't create enough. We didn't make enough chances. So I think Ryan's, I think Ryan's being a little, not naughty, but a little tongue in cheek. You know, it's trying to get away with a complaint there, which I don't think is valid.

Chervon: 27:31

And your opinion on Zaka. Do you still think that he is Goated or have you come over to my side and said that he is?'cause I, I've strongly, and I've said this many times before, I really do think that he's overrated. But what do you think?

Tim: 27:43

look, I, I think it's difficult. Four years ago you got 26 goals and assists in the, in a, in the Premier League season. Season after that it was 24. Then last season he had a dip in his numbers and this season it's continued. Yeah, the numbers have continued to dip and I think part of it is the injury. Part of it is a better arsenal. Team is facing lower and lower blocks and and teams that are more and more defensive. I mean, you saw how Citi turned up at the Emirates. I've never seen anything like that from a Guda team in my life. I get why he's, his output is less, but I expected more from him and I've been quite critical of him in Arsenal groups and in other football league debates like that, you cannot expect to win Champions leagues and Premier leagues if your best players aren't playing at their best. And right now soccer is way off what I've seen from him. So,

Chris: 28:41

you, You think of the experiment with him in a slightly different position on the weekend?

Tim: 28:48

Oh, I'm glad you asked me that. Geeking out about, about tactics here. I find it to, to be a really, really interesting move and Arsenal Tacticals have been theorising it, like the whole chenko gonna be a midfielder idea for years now because the idea is. Sacker by being, by putting him on the far side, the fifth sort of channel so to speak. You put him very, very far from goal and he is gotta do a lot to get there. If you put him at that number 10 ish position. You're giving him a chance to be much closer to shots and assists, and I think make your dangerous players closer to where you can be dangerous. So for me, I thought it was a master stroke and ode God is having a really difficult season. So maybe sacker on the inside with nni on the outside is an interesting way of revitalising the right hand channel for, for the arsenal

Chris: 29:47

So you

Tim: 29:47

now.

Chris: 29:48

win it at the end of the season? Eh?

Tim: 29:51

Hey, my head is telling me that something is not quite clicking and you need it to be on it to win, but I, in my heart is saying, well, well just. Get it done. But I dunno, I I, wouldn't put money on anything right now. I feel like the next month is gonna be so important to see if cities run that they're accumulating is real or fake, like the last few that they've done this season where they then stumble again whether Arsenal stumble is real or whether they're gonna go on a crazy run again. I dunno. It's it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun title race.

Chervon: 30:35

Do you think'cause oal, I also strike, I mean, the entire Premier League are struggling with injuries at the moment. I don't know what's going on. I mean, we can, we can debate about playing every three days until we blew in the face. I, we're still gonna watch games every three days, you know, or like me, every single day. As long as there's a game on, I'm watching it. Do you think that Arsenal's calendar still being in all four competitions, is what's gonna actually be their downfall at the end of the day? I'm not saying this because Slot made the excuse that we lost A PSG and that's why we won the league because I mean, we were 15 points ahead, and I'm just saying that I'm not backing him in that opinion before anyone comes for me.

Tim: 31:14

I, I think you cannot buy the number of players Arsenal have bought, not necessarily an overall squad value, but in terms of just the number of options. And then complain much. I think about injuries. I will say though is no team major trophies with their best players injured. So I still think while a good squad low increases the flaw and means that we can compete in competitions and that should continue. I think if we lose Declan Rice, for example, like. I don't think, I think he is the difference between winning a Champions League final and losing it and whatever replacement you have on the bench is never gonna be sufficient to replace that guy's role in the team. So there are one or two players, I think, if they get injured before a major game. Again, Vaughn, then big trouble. Hey, like Gabrielle in defence, rice in midfield, and I'd probably argue Saka if he comes back to form, but at the moment with him off form. that's fine. And even, you know, and we could play with Mada in a final, but rice and Gabrielle, for me, are just irreplaceable with our squad. Even with the, guys we accumulated, like like sort of Pokemons.

Chervon: 32:35

No, I agree with you on the Rice thing. Last question from my side on Arsenal. For you specifically, if say the season works out the way that you guys wanna want it to work out, you win all four trophies. Great. I. If it works out the way it's likely to work out and you only say, for instance, when one trophy and it happens to be like the Carib ball cup, you finish second in in the, in the Premier League, you get kicked outta Champions league. You get kicked outta FA cup and you go home with the Carib Ball cup. Does Arteta keep his job next season? Your opinion?

Tim: 33:13

I think Art Teta would walk in that scenario for a new challenge or a break from football. I think. The idea of walking out of this season with one trophy being the Mickey Mouse trophy, the plastic one that, you know, your child sort of nibbles on the corner gets all sort of fray. The Carabell calf is, is a, it's a trophy, but it's a, it, it, it, that's why it, it gets settled in February. It's like it's a starter before the main courses. I, i, I think he would be extremely disappointed and I don't think they'd fire him if he was willing to stay. Like our board is very happy with progress. They would see it as progress. But no, I think he would walk. I think this season is a champions league or Premier League, none, nothing else. Even winning carat and FA and doing a domestic cup double, no, I don't think it'll be seen as success by the people in the club. All the fans, to be honest. We have to bring a big one. Home and I would, if I had to choose one of the two, if that was your follow up question between the Champions League and the Premier League, would always choose Champions League. I've never seen it in my life. It would be something brand new for the club. And just so that I never have to listen to Chelsea fans say sing the, you know, you'll never. Champions of Europe. You're never sing that. You're never sing that Champions of Europe, you're never sing that. I I never wanna hear that from Chelsea fans again. So, yeah. We've been going on a little while longer than we thought we were gonna do. So what I'm gonna ask from you guys is predictions from your side. You are currently sick. I'm gonna get asked for a prediction for the rest of how the season plays out. Give your. position on the leaderboard for Liverpool, and then who wins the league this season? And why don't we start with Chris.

Chervon: 35:07

Thank you.

Chris: 35:08

So my prediction is more of a hope. I I really hope Arsenal actually wins it. Just because like the city with the financial fair play and the way they've, eh, so, and that it'll be nice to see one of the old guard back in the mix. I think Liverpool's probably gonna finish fifth. I don't think they're gonna make top four. And hopefully we get that extra Champions league place. As

Tim: 35:38

What.

Chris: 35:38

up any night, I'm okay.

Tim: 35:41

That's actually gonna be a pretty, I really hope it goes to the final day and it's you versus United for the for the top four. It will make for an incredible final day. I'm very appreciative of, of your backing, Chris.'cause I dunno how anyone in football supports the 115 charges Club for another title. It just looks, it just makes us all look silly a little bit. But anyway fa where are you at? What are, what are you looking at for the rest of the season?

Chervon: 36:10

I, my heart, my heart, my heart, my heart says we will probably finish fourth. I'm gonna say it. Yeah. Fourth and hopes and dreams, guys, villa to win the league.

Chris: 36:28

Oh yeah, that would, that would be that. But that's, that's not a prediction. I would,

Chervon: 36:34

I know it's

Chris: 36:35

for Villa to

Chervon: 36:35

so far out there and especially with like Un Emery as manager,

Chris: 36:41

But that's not gonna happen.

Chervon: 36:43

and you know what, you know what the cherry on the cake would be for me, just for Tom is if Roger scores the winning goal that wins the league.

Tim: 36:54

Absolutely not. No. One of my outside. Absolutely not.

Chervon: 36:59

Okay, no seriousness. I do think Asma will actually win the league. If they don't, then they don't deserve it at all. Like chasing it. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. If you guys cannot keep it this time, when. Everyone else below you has been so disappointing and has stepped, taken their foot off the gas so completely and had disastrous seasons and disastrous runs if you can. If you cannot win it in this season, then no. So if you can't finish it.

Tim: 37:35

Okay. Thank you guys. I appreciate you. Shit. I thought I was gonna get away with that. I'm gonna predict that Arsenal will win the Premier League, and I'll just throw a prediction that Liverpool will finish fourth. And I'm going to predict that man, United will finish third and Villa will have a fall off and finish fifth. Yeah, I think, I think that they're doing fantastic, but I do think if. One or two people get injured. It's big, big, big problems in, in offensively less, less so defensively. They've actually got a lot of depth on the bench in the defence, but, and the midfield, but not so much upfront. So I think if Ollie Watkins or Rogers get injured and. Touch wood here.'cause I really don't want them to, because before the World Cup as well, I'm personally hoping that Rogers wins that selection battle against Bellingham and Cole Palmer and Lands The 10 behind, Kane. We'll see. I just think he's the more wonderfully explosive player. I absolutely,

Chervon: 38:50

Or maybe.

Tim: 38:52

yeah. Yeah. And Palm, yeah. Palmer's got,

Chris: 38:56

Didn't

Tim: 38:56

mm.

Chris: 38:56

just also sign another attacking player? I wanna say Abrahams. Yeah.

Tim: 39:01

Yeah. Yeah. And he is good. He is good.

Chervon: 39:05

Actually,

Tim: 39:06

Yeah. Finally replaced John Duran which lovely

Chervon: 39:11

he scored a goal. He scored in the FA cup, his first goal.

Tim: 39:16

Yeah, Tommy's good. I really, really liked him when he was at Chelsea, to be honest. I was always a little bit. How do I say? Disappointed by the sort of, when Chelsea get rid of their toys and they sort of, the poor guys just end up in some league, like Turkey or whatever. Yeah, like Sterling, great example. Yeah. Appearing on my, yeah. Here in guys, thank you so much for your time. We're gonna wrap that one up there. It's gonna be an interesting weekend. We've got some fixtures. Manchester City versus Newcastle, spurs versus Arsenal. Definitely the pick of the bunch for the weekend. But it's gonna be exciting across across the Premier League, I suspect. chat soon folks, and thank you to anyone who managed to get to the end of the podcast. We appreciate your support as always. I think that's that for the pattern play. Ciao for now.